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Journal Entry: Wed Nov 19, 2008, 4:09 AM
  • Mood: Love
  • Listening to: the VLA - when I'm through with you
  • Reading: guido cervo - il legato romano
  • Watching: damages - I season


The facts: what's happened.

Two days ago *glitterdarkstar has posted a deviation.
*kosmobil has recognized in Lore's deviation some elements from a deviation of his gallery.
Rightly *kosmobil wanted a clarification, but Loredana at first has reacted with too much impulsiveness deleting all her deviation. Then the caos.
The day after with more lucidity, Loredana has submitted a journal begging the pardon of *kosmobil 'cause she has recognized those similitudes too. She has admitted the usage of some brushes she has downloaded before, absolutely in good faith (and she has submitted the original file of her photo with the EXIF and the brushset too, then the brushes removed by the staff). She asked to her audience to not offend or attack *kosmobil 'cause actually he was in right asking some clarification and she apologized publicly for that incident, with humility.
All useless. In a couple of hours it storms a incredible mess despite the two involved attempted to solve the circumstance with calm and lucidity.
Loredana, without any doubt benefit, was crucified as the most dishonest bandit of the community, despite she apologized in public and she deleted immediately the deviation at issue. Just like all her engagement for dA, four years of her life, never exist.
But more serious thing, more serious than the accusation she received from common users, the staff removed her senior status on the basis of accusations and gripes not even substantiated with evidence.
In democracy a person is innocent untill the concrete demonstration of guiltiness. And in any case, Loredana has done everything to assume her responsibility apologizing in public with :devkosmobile: and the entire community for her mistake.

But it seems that democracy statments and public apologies are not so important on deviantART.



Now.. I want to suggest you a point of view that few people seem to have contemplated.

Why a deviant so popular (751,212 Pageviews), with an audience of 5,853 watchers, with her deviations steadily in the popular frontpage of deviantART, so deeply engaged in the community, featuring unknown deviants daily on her space and in art groups, suggesting a large part of deviantART DDs, acting with extremely kindness with everyone on this site, with a deviousness award that says:

"`glitterdarkstar is a name known amongst many deviants already, particularly in the area of photography and her endless love of promoting underexposed photographers through her journal, her Daily Deviation suggestions, or her involvement with *deviant-ARCADE. And that isn't even mentioning her endless comments of praise and support to artists nor her own passion for creating work of her own. So it is our pleasure to close out 2007 by presenting the Deviousness Award to `glitterdarkstar"

why..why a person like that would even do a so stupid thing as to copy or to steal or to manipulate purposely a pic from another deviant? Why if it's so obvious that a person with an audience like Loredana would be striked instantly?

Just a mad would act in the way you want to accuse Loredana. And Loredana has demonstrated with facts in four years of activity that isn't a mad for sure, but an honest and kind person.. and her deviousness award states it.

The most discreditable thing is that for a single fault you've crucified a person that for 4 years of her life has engaged her time to help this community. To err is human: you've humiliated a person and deprived her of this benefit.
This is disgusting.

SHAME ON YOU.

For these reasons I asked yesterday to $chix0r and colleagues to revoke my senior status too... 'cause I don't want to be a part of a group that act in this way. I'm not that kind of person. And I hope they'll do it soon.

This site yesterday has touched the lowest floor.

BUT LOOK: besides everything you can write.. the moral integrity and honesty of Loredana is and will be untouchable.

Devious Comments

love 0 0 joy 0 0 wow 0 0 mad 1 1 sad 2 2 fear 0 0 neutral 0 0
:iconintentipersi:
fossi una senior, lo leverei anch'io..
(cmq non ci sono parole.. sul serio)

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:iconglitterscene:
This is pure madness. :ashamed:
:iconninazdesign:
terrible, this is so disgusting...I am here for both of you ... remember.. Give Lore's a huge hug from me, tel her to be strong, she does know what is the truth, tel her I know too :heart:

:love:

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:iconcaramellasmog:
non ho parole, veramente..
mi chiedo con quale coraggio la gente si permetta di agire in determinati modi.. senza parole..
:icondonia:
Quello che veramente non capisco è perchè abbiano cancellato le deviation con gli exif quando loro stessi gliele avevano richieste per provare ciò che diceva.

What I really don't understand is why the staff deleted the original pictures with the exifs data if they themselves asked for her to post them as proofs of what she was saying!!!

:o

Sconvolta...

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:iconmanu-80:
si guarda Bru è pazzesco comunque eh..
era risolvibile in 10 minuti se dall'altra parte ci fosse stata una persona COERENTE e intelligente..
non è stato così..la tendenza è crocifiggere sempre le persone migliori a scopo di umiliarle..vuoi per gelosia, vuoi per altro, ma è così..

Vedi bene la popolarità di Lore..sarebbe da sciocchi andare a fregare foto in giro...
Quindi non bisogna proprio spiegare un cazzo..

sai quante volte con il mio lavoro ho a che fare con persone del genere?
Essere buoni, generosi e calmi ok..ma fino a un certo punto..

un abbraccio a entrambi

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:iconraccoon-with-a-cigar:
I'm with you on this...if people react in such a way that a person as Loredana who has contributed so much to this community decides to leave, then something is wrong with the community. Shame that people don't see further than some stupid acusations, shame they don't put themselves in her place, especially the admins who revoked her senior status...
I'm sending my support and kind regards to both of you..I sincerely hope that this community will learn to respect it's valued members, because they have a lot to learn from you.

:hug:

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:iconrummylovesyou:
:hug:
This is going too far now. We're human and we make mistakes. Some people don't see it.
Hugs to both. :hug:

happy dArama reading to those who like it.... this is just ridiculous....

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:icontotalimmortal86:
I really am disgusted by the callous comments made by some people over the course of the last two days. It's almost like they were waiting for something to happen, and poor Lore just happened to be there at the wrong time. As you said yesterday, it has to be sorted between the two of them, JUST the two of them...

I couldn't get across the point yesterday that she isn't a person who makes mule accounts and steals art to get page views. A genuine mistake was made, and she has apologised. She removed the images that caused the situation... What more do people want her to do? What do these people want her to go through before they forget it? I know that Lore won't forget. She won't let herself forget, and to me that seems more then enough for someone who has apologised. Someone who is genuinely sorry with all her :heart:

Take care Bruno. Wish Lore all the best for me.
:iconshadowbless:
Shame yes! What a shame! :angered:
I still have months prepaid but parts of the DA community and staff are getting worse and worse.

I don't know if DA deserve kindness, honesty and time now. How could it be after that? This DA does not deserve persons like Glitterdarkstar and you.

Shameful at least!!

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What do you do when you see a feature? 

54%
96 deviants said If I like it I fave and watch the artist.
33%
59 deviants said I fave it and go through the artist's gallery.
4%
7 deviants said I fave it.
3%
6 deviants said I just comment on it.
3%
6 deviants said I don't care.
1%
2 deviants said I ignore it.
1%
1 deviant said I just comment the journal where I find it.
1%
1 deviant said I don't believe in features. Are useless.

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